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To the Underdog Sports NFL Show with hosts Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines, brought to you by Underdog Sports. Hey, everybody, and welcome to this week's episode of the Underdog NFL Show. I'm Chris Horwedel, joined as always by the one, the only in America, Mario Hines. Mario. Yeah, I checked. I checked. How are you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm fighting to be the only Mario Hines in America. I actually, you know, I'm a vigilante about it. You—oh God, remind me after we record this, there's some stuff I want to talk to you about. Because, spoilers for anyone, the new website is very, very close to being done. It's like 98%, and, like, I'm incredibly happy with some decisions I made to take stuff off my plate. But in working that, you know, I've been—we've been updating pictures and stuff like that, and I need pictures from your people. Yes. But I was just looking, I was like, all right, Mario hasn't sent me anything. I'm just—I'm sure I have pictures of Mario. Like, we've been on trips together, we've hung out. No way. I've got pictures of Mario. But I couldn't find anything like great, so I looked on the interwebs, and I found an image that I believe was from—let's see what it was called. Oh my God. First of all, why is there an Asian? That's Mario Teja. That is incorrect. Oh my gosh. Ernie Hudson? What, Google's racist? Yeah. How is there a picture of Ernie Hudson? All right, I don't know where it is now, but I found a picture of you. Yes, this is it. It's a young Mario Hines, and it is from the Staff and Board of FutureChefs.net. That picture's still up, man. I don't know anything about this. Were you going to be a chef? No, no. So I'm in the tech world in other parts of my life. So I've been doing data and stuff for them for a while now, and I mean, it started with, like, youth work in Boston, and they use culinary stuff to help young kids, like, stay out of trouble, graduate high school, and stuff. And I will say, though, I have become a better chef because of it. Okay, okay, okay. Well, that is a picture that they have of you. I'm going to give you a picture, by the way. No, I think we're going to use this one. No, no, no. I see I need to intervene. Or honestly, I'm just going to use the Ernie Hudson picture because that's funny. But how old is this picture? Oh my gosh, that has to be at least— This is young Mario Hines. Yeah, that has to be like eight years old. Mr. Hines graduated from Robert Morris University with a bachelor's in communication. Tom's using it up. My big question is, is the Mario at futurechefs.net email still active? Oh, it's so active. I still— don't spam it because I'm doing real serious work here. Sure, sure, sure. By the way, I'm really quickly scrolling down. I, for a second— only for a second— I was like, is that dude above you, is that 20 above you? But then I quickly realized that— Maybe I had a Google Ernie Hudson moment. And it was just, it was a gentleman by the name of Julius Johnson. Oh, that's so good. I can't wait to tell Julius that he looks like 20. I don't know either of these people. I've seen 20 many times in video form, and Julius on his OnlyFans. But I'm very, very intimate with Julius now. That's probably not true for all legal reasons. Yeah, I'm back out. No, but I just, I found this picture and I was like, what the fuck am I looking at? I love when that can happen. Like, we have a paper trail or a digital footprint. I know. That's why I try to avoid— Okay, we'll talk about that in a second, because it's like no free ads. But we have a lot to talk about this week, as we always do. We have Lucky Rebel Sportsbook open to front all the lines, futures, props, and good stuff from week one of the National Football League, and there's football tonight, which is absolutely positively crazy. But we're going to circle back to that in one moment. The thing that struck me as interesting about all of what you just said is, like, I have considered those data removal programs, the services to get my information off the internet. Have you ever thought about those? Yes, because I get way too much spam. Yes, DeleteMe is a great tool. No free ads, but— Oh, well, if you've actually used it, then that's— Yeah, yeah, I have, I have, actually. But no, it's worth it. I think it's worth it. I think it's worth it. It's just, you know what the issue is? The issue is that as soon as you're done with it, 80 more have been created. But at least somebody's theoretically acting in your interest to get rid of them. Yes, yes, yes. Did you see a notable reduction in, like, spam calls, email stuff? Yeah, yeah. Mostly emails. The calls got back going relatively quickly, I would say. I don't want to say super quickly, but it wasn't enough where I was like, oh my gosh, you know. But the emails and stuff like that, yeah, gone. I get— here, I'll give you an example. I get just a stupid amount of calls every day offering me loans. And it's always quote-unquote business financing. I got this one at 10:06 this morning. Regarding your business financing, to let you know it's ready for funding ASAP. Call me at blank and I'll walk you through the details. Your file is currently showing you're pre-approved for up to $280,000 subject to final verification. There's more, but every single one is exactly like that, and I've never asked anyone for a loan. Like, I asked my bank for a loan once and they said no. That's a true story. That's a true story. They didn't say no. I asked my bank, because when I tried to get my first mortgage on a house, I wanted to go through my bank. And, like, I'm doing okay, and they know how much money's in my account, and they were like, Can't approve that. I was like, What? It's a dirty game. Oh, by the way, no, okay, the guy, his name, I'll always remember it because of the obvious tie. His name is Fred Hines. Oh no. And Fred is a super, super nice guy. Fred genuinely seemed to feel bad about having to say no to it. Only Fred never told me this. I know. You guys are very close. But Fred is an old white man, by the way. He's genuinely a very nice man. I don't know if he's still there, but if you're in the middle of California in the Pleasant Hill area, check out Fred Hines for all of your banking needs, and tell him Chris sent you. Yeah, we'll see you next week. And he'll be like, Who's Chris? Exactly. He did actually, after I got the mortgage and we bought the house, I guess he was just following it. He was, like, to see if it closed. So he, like, called me and congratulated me. It was very sweet. That's pretty cool. I mean, he's the one. Fred Hines is the one. Shout out. But we're here to talk about—I'm doing a dumb shtick—we're here to talk about the National Football League. There is a game that's going to kick off in less than three hours. The New England Patriots are in Seattle to take on those Seattle Seahawks, and the Seahawks find themselves three-point underdogs at Lucky Rebel. How are you feeling about this game? Seahawks are underdogs? Favorites. That's how numbers work. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I don't know why I thought you said underdogs. No, I said underdogs, but that's because I'm dumb and don't understand how numbers work. Okay, all is right. All is right. I think we see—it's going to be misleading. This is a great first game of the season because it's, like, kind of a false level setter in the fact that both teams are going to be worse than last year, how they finished last year, of course. But we won't notice that because— Because both will be worse, and the Seahawks will look good. Neither one will look bad, but the Seahawks. I'm excited. I'm looking forward to seeing them defy that, like, complete, you were lucky to get there, which I feel like is the sentiment. There tends to be a hangover from Super Bowl losers. Do you see that affecting the Patriots this year? Absolutely, absolutely. Besides working in a new, albeit star, but new player in the offense, where you're counting that to be very important, Romeo Doubs. You gotta have him, and you gotta feed him, and you gotta figure it out, regardless of if it disrupts the flow. How mad would A.J. Brown get if Romeo Doubs got fed 160 targets? Imagine. Really, just let's shrink the sample size. If he got more targets in week one, how mad? Yeah, I would love to see it. Indeed. Seriously, the thing that I want to also make clear from my perspective of the Super Bowl hangover is that the thing that is happening is that you played more football, and that is harder to recover from. Like, that's a real thing. It's not magic. It's not— Okay, follow-up to that, though. Why does it tend to affect the loser rather than the winner? Because the winner played just as much football. Yeah. So typically, and this is—you can't really scale this at all—but the loser tends to then take all those extra games, then overwork in the offseason because you think you're just that close, or, you know, something that throws the rhythm off, usually just beating your body up. Whereas the winners are like, Guys, take care of yourselves. Great job, and you come back more refreshed to offset some of that extra. That's the science behind it. The mental is that the football gods just hate you more if you make it to the Super Bowl and lose. I accept that. Yeah. I accept that. So we like Seattle tonight? I like Seattle tonight. I actually like Seattle most nights. Okay. All right. I want to make that clear before the season goes on and I forget about them, that I don't think that they're going to be, like, a huge drop-off. I mean, they're just such a well-coached, well-established, well-built team. Yeah, I don't, I don't see where you're gonna get the fall off. Although I do kind of wonder, like, is the offensive line a little overrated? I worry about that. Like Charles Cross and Gray Zabel, I love Gray Zabel, but that's fine. But then past that, you're looking at, like, if you, for instance, if you were like, Hey Chris, I'll give you $200,000 if you can name three of the Seattle Seahawks starting offensive linemen, and I'd be like, Cool, cool, cool. Charles Cross, Gray Zabel, about that. The others are Jalen Sundell, Anthony Bradford, and Abraham Lucas. Like, maybe I get Abe Lucas, but I don't know. That doesn't feel strong to me. Yeah, and that's gonna, you know where that trickle-down impacts. Everything. Everything, yes. I mean, and the running back thing. But Sam Darnold, don't expect more Super Bowl Darnold than regular season Darnold, especially like that last seven games where he was really good. This is the year where they unleashed Drew Lock on the world. Listen, he looks so good in Hard Knocks. I forgot Seattle was on Hard Knocks. Have not watched a second of it. I've been trying. You just really do turn your brain off whenever I text you. Yeah, well, I have you blocked. That's— You're like, It's weird. You never get back to me, and then you're surprised when you talk about the texts. No, I don't. I intend to watch. I intended to watch Hard Knocks. It's just, I don't know, what the hell have we been watching? We just got done something. I forget what it was. And recently we've been watching Traitors Ireland, where I sent you the greatest commercial that was ever produced. So good, dude. I was mad when they went to the commercial break and they did not show commercials. Irish commercials, for whatever reason, are amazing. They still get it, man. That's what it seems like with that, just that one commercial. They still get it. They know what we're here for with commercials. Amazing. Yeah, I'm psyched for this team. I'm psyched to see Seattle. I don't know. I really want Seattle to beat New England because I just don't find New England likable. Are you, like, also, do you have some type of A.J. gripe, like that you residue with them as well? Well, let's not forget the Philadelphia Eagles and New England Patriots have quite a tradition prior to A.J. Brown. Look, A.J., he is what he is. The situation is what it was, and now it's done, and we're gonna move on. Would I have preferred that A.J. Brown was a Philadelphia Eagle catching 110 passes this year? Sure. Would I have preferred we didn't have to wait till 2028 for a first-round pick or whatever? Sure. But not the world we live in right now, and get an extra pick this year, and then we get that first-round pick next year. True. You should see the bright side. It's the bright side to me. It's the bright side. This Australia game is weird to me. The San Francisco 49ers take on the Los Angeles Rams in Melbourne, and it's just crazy to me because we're going to be watching this game—well, we in the Eastern time zone are going to be watching this game at 8:35 on Thursday night. The San Francisco 49ers and the Los Angeles Rams will be playing that game at 10:35 a.m. on Friday morning their time. Did you tell me that that's the way football should be, though? Like when you were in California, didn't you love that 11 o'clock thing or whatever it was? I just, I absolutely love the earlier games, 100%. I just think it's crazy that they're playing on a different day than we're watching it. We're watching it; they're playing it later than we're watching it. They're in our future. Yeah, this is so cool. This is what everyone meant. And yeah, first of all, and how about Aaron Donald? He's like, Yeah, you know what? Maybe I'm not ready to play. I'm going to skip this trip. Yeah, don't go to Australia. I'm going to skip the 16-hour flight to Australia. Yeah, like, guys, a little fast on the celebration. I didn't mean this week. Yeah, I'm like, I'll see you midseason in L.A. I'll play all eight or all nine or whatever how many games there are, home games in football. Yeah, who was it? Was it Popovich that was just going to coach home games? That's so cool. I think that's awesome. I think that's right. I think—or maybe it was Phil Jackson. I don't know. It's one of those great all-time coaches. But it's just, yeah, it's weird. And it's also, it's weird. Can it be weird for them playing at 10:30 in the morning? And I think the Rams just went over. Like, the 49ers have been there for a week to acclimate. The Rams just went yesterday. I advantage 49ers in my book. Oh my gosh, that's such a, gosh, forgetting the coach's name, because it's such a move by him. Sean McVay, or— Yeah, McVay, like, ah, we'll get there. We'll get there the morning of. Yeah, he's like, There's no stress. That's in the future for us here. Yeah, exactly. I'm not looking ahead. I don't know how many times I have to tell you. It says the coach who does nothing but look ahead every offseason. Where are you— Rams are minus four at Lucky Rebel. Where are you on this? I think that's a little low. Oh. I think that's a little low. I don't believe in this Niners team. What don't you believe about them? I don't think they're, like, formidable in that upper NFC. I think they're just at the top of the mid-tier NFC teams. What do we expect from McCaffrey this year? Um, I mean, kudos to him from last year. Not enough news, maybe because we don't care, but played more games than many thought. I'm gonna err on the side of optimism and say he can back it up with another good year. I just, I worry because, one, he's older. McCaffrey is now 30 years old. The number. Which makes me feel extremely old. And we just don't see a lot of back-to-back good years. There have only been two seasons in his career where— nope, yeah, two seasons in his career where Christian McCaffrey had back-to-back seasons over 1,000 yards rushing. He fixed it this year. No, it's tough. Gonna be tough. And again, I don't— they're less, they're less, I think they're less inclined to have more weapons to use, so. There is another interesting statistical trend, though. If you look at Christian McCaffrey's career, he has never rushed for 1,000 yards one season and then not done it for a second season in a row. Both of those instances are back-to-backs. It was 2018, 2019, 1,098 yards and 1,387 yards, and then 22, 23, where it was 1,139 and 1,459. So if he rushes for 1,000 in the first year, he's never not rushed for 1,000 yards the next year. But he's also only rushed for 1,000 yards in, like— 35% of the seasons. Shout out to the health. I think maybe he figured out what to do with his body. Yeah, a lot of that. I mean, that time in Carolina was really, really skews all of this. Yeah, because you had three years in a row where he played three games, seven games, six games. Yeah. And you have a lot of— Yeah, I mean, you have a lot of, like, the four games in 2024. The good news is if McCaffrey makes it past, like, game 11, he's probably okay. Right, right. And that's counterintuitive in a lot of ways. You're thinking that any game now, any play now, once you hit 11 games. But that's why I said I kind of have to give him credit now that I'm taking a beat. Like, he really, he finished strong as hell last year. How many seasons— because there's some fun McCaffrey stats that I'm looking at him. How many seasons has he had 10 or more rushing touchdowns? Four. Three. How many seasons has he had two or more fumbles? To be fair, four. Two. Whoa. How many seasons has he had three or more fumbles? Okay, on running plays. Okay, okay. Three. Zero. He has never fumbled the ball three times during rushing attempts in a single season. That's pretty damn good. Like, this guy's really good. Man, he's really good. He's a better player than you would expect, and sometimes slightly overrated with what you think he's done, I would say, but better player than you expect. The only concern for me here, though, is he had just his second season in the NFL with under four yards a carry last year, and the first one was his first one. I mean, last year they were like— Christian, please. So I get it. Please, just get us some yards. I mean, that's what the Eagles were with Saquon too, and Saquon got himself up to 4.1 by the end of the year. Yeah, that might bode unwell for back-to-back good years, but... Yeah, I don't know. Weird stats from McCaffrey. Also, the amount of— dude had 142 targets in one season catching the ball. What? 142. For what team? For the Panthers in 2019, when he caught 116 passes. Was that a Cam Newton team? Probably, because Cam Newton couldn't throw accurately. Exactly. Thinking like that was 1,000%. Of course it's by design if it's over 60, but it's really by design. He had 287 carries, 116 receptions on 142 targets. They were trying to kill him. Yeah, and then they kind of did, because he played three games that next season. So, kudos, Carolina Panthers. For real. If in hindsight, he kind of like took himself out, like in the background, I could not blame him. Yeah, played a full 16 in that '19 season, and then he's just like, Y'all are tripping. I'm good. I'm good. You guys are gonna be fine. You guys are— I have a lot of faith in the team. I can't find the 2019. I don't know who the backup running back was in 2019, but we're gonna say Rico Dowdle Sr. The next game we're gonna talk about, the Atlanta Falcons in Pittsburgh to take on the Pittsburgh Steelers. This is a 1 o'clock start on Sunday. Steelers minus three and a half at Lucky Rebel. Ooh. Steelers with the little favoritism. What do we expect from Aaron Rodgers this year? This is weird, because I want to, like, I sincerely want to talk shit or whatever, but I don't have an expectation. I just have no idea where he's at. He's been out of the news in some miraculous way. I think the only thing we can measure this up against is who he's playing, but the Falcons secondary is still supposed to be somewhat the— It's the Terrell brothers now, right? Yeah, yeah. Which I like the younger one. You kind of were down on him as the draft approach, but— Yeah, but largely because he runs about as fast as I do. But, I mean, he's a corner, though. Like, you know. Seriously, that's what's troubling. That is what's troubling. I think he should be faster. No, I think that the back end of the Falcons defense is what's still touted. So maybe you're talking, you know, stalemate in terms of expectation. But the Steelers have what I think is what Aaron Rodgers loves, and that's deep ball guys. And, I mean, you think they're 50-50 guys. DK is not one, but you would think that. But they have the guys to try, and I think that, in a funny way, makes Aaron Rodgers a little more valuable this year than he was last year as an older player. I kind of think that this year might remind some people of that Russell Wilson year in Pittsburgh. That'd be great, because he should be done. Well, I agree he should be done, and I'm just, yeah, 3,300 yards. He was basically 200 yards a game last year. That has continuously dropped over the last handful of years. He might be like a 178, 185 passing-a-game guy this year. That would be completely—I mean, I know Tomlin's not there, so I have to get a feel for what that even looks like. And excuse me, sincerely excuse me, because I didn't consider that when I was talking about the game, but everybody's pissed off if it's 175, 185. Like, that's not what this is supposed to be. By the way, how good is Mike Tomlin on TV? Born for it, man. Born for it. I want to see his Minecraft world real bad. Yeah, that story came out. What he literally said he spent years building his Minecraft world. A guy like that is probably amazing. Just a bunch of effigies to Ben Roethlisberger. Exactly. It's like, not another one, Mike. This is the only way I can deal with it. Cheaper than therapy. It is cheaper than therapy. Yeah, he is unbelievably good on television. Yeah. I hope he never coaches again. He probably won't. He probably—I mean, we've seen this. We've seen this where, you know, some owner, some GM is going to be like, Look, you can't deny this, and he'll be tested, but hopefully it's not soon. Yeah, like, and, you know, McVay is another guy who was great when we've seen him do any TV stuff. Like, I just want these guys on TV. I don't want— They don't need to be coaches anymore. Other people can be coaches. Aviante Terrell's not going to have anything else to do in a couple years. He could be a coach. Oh my God. I can't wait. He's gonna— if I still care by the end of this season, I will definitely use him as a vindication point. I'm just— it was a joke for the sake of the joke, but I am concerned. I don't hate him, but I am concerned anytime a cornerback runs a 4.64. Haven't you learned anything from— let me see— clearly not. Jeez. Tough. Who is the slowest— who's the slowest cornerback in the NFL? When have we had a good slow corner? When was the last time we've had one? Like Richard Sherman, the last— Exactly what came to my mind too. But he's like such a scheme-specific player. Yeah, yeah, and he— I mean, yeah, yeah. Who is the last very good, very slow corner in the NFL? And don't just name white people. It's just gonna be— oh, Harrison Smith's back, by the way. Jesus. Oh yeah, I meant to text you when I saw that. Like, talk about, I mean, they were setting it up last year. The best recent answer is Richard Sherman. That's what we got. Sherman was a 4.54, 4.56 guy coming out of Stanford. That's, you know, that's at his size, where Terrell is not that size. Yeah, that is, that's fine. Like, that's okay. Josh Norman is a good example. Josh Norman, 4.66 guy. But, I mean, he was also, like, kind of scheme specific. Yeah, scheme specific and very aggressive. And they basically robbed—not robbed, but they took away what he could do well pretty quickly with the rules. Well, yeah, exactly right. And by the way, I love the idea of what slow is from ChatGPT. They're like, Aqib Talib, he ran a 4.44. Sauce Gardner, he ran a 4.41. Notoriously slow Darius Slay, who ran a 4.36 coming out of college. That's what got him. Like, what do you consider fast, ChatGPT? If you're not a whole, like—if you're not a 4.2 corners. Yeah, if you're not a 4.1 guy, get the fuck out of here. Yeah, like, yeah, don't talk to me. I'm ChatGPT, motherfucker. Yeah, exactly. I know real speed. I know real speed. Not recently. Can I give a ChatGPT hack? ChatGPT I use a lot, and, you know, maybe there's some issues surrounding the use of AI and all of that, and I accept that, but it's a useful tool. I accept that as well. But when you use ChatGPT on the instant setting, like, I'm saying, the answer you get is, like, coin flip accurate. If you turn it up a little bit higher, though, and you put it on, like, the high settings, especially if you go into the ChatGPT work, which I use every single day for a bunch of stuff—yeah—it's really good. It just takes a while. I've had it thinking for 18 minutes before it produced the result. My goodness. But 18 minutes is an eternity when you're— 18 minutes, yeah. He said, I just set it a task. I do, you know, typically it's like I want to, if I'm doing an interview with somebody, I want to do like a deep dive on them and have it come up with a dossier and interesting facts and stuff like that. And yeah, that can take up to like 18 minutes, but whatever. Worth the wait. You walk away and then it's there and it's good. It's there and it's good. I'm in a mood today. The, as you can clearly tell, the Baltimore Ravens are in Indianapolis to take on the Indianapolis Colts. Daniel Jones back just about nine months after tearing his Achilles. The Colts plus three and a half at Lucky Rebel. That's also a little low on Colts than I would have expected. I mean, I think it's a great game. I think it's a good matchup. But you named it. You named it the return of Daniel Jones off of a what used to be, I want to say in quotations, air quotes, a serious injury. We know what the Colts are without him. We know. The Philip Rivers days. Yeah, Philip Rivers 2.0. Exactly. So, you know, you get why they're in certain quick. I just, you know, even with the coaching change in Baltimore, I'm like, I think for week one, if this was a week six matchup and everyone's healthy or as healthy as can be, I thought this would be a little closer. But week one, I think the Ravens, they handle this pretty, and they definitely beat the spread. Okay. The Buffalo Bills are in Houston for the closest, well, now tied for the closest matchup actually, but the closest matchup of a good game this week at Lucky Rebel. The line is Buffalo minus one. Wow, good week one games. I'm a scheduler. Shout out to you, NFL scheduler. Well, there's some other ones we'll talk about later. I'm just gonna fall asleep. One for them, one for us kind of deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, just being fair. Before I answer, like, what—how do we, are we weighing this game? How do we weigh this game? Is this an important game? Uh, yes. Yeah, right? Doesn't it feel important? Well, I'll tell you what. It's important for C.J. Stroud, who wants $70 million. So you don't think it's important for the other guy? Oh, I think it's unbelievably important for Josh Allen as well. But C.J. Stroud was offered $50 million, and he said, No, I want 70 with a straight face. He said that with a straight face. C.J. Stroud threw for 3,041 yards last year, 19 touchdowns to 8 interceptions, and he's like, I want $70 million. It's basically like in Austin Powers, where they're like, I want $100 million. Like, what? Okay, really quickly, because that's such a great reference, I have to throw in my 1B favorite negotiating reference is when Homer has the tamaco. Oh, such a good episode. Oh, great episode. He's like, We won't consider anything under $1 billion. They throw him out of the helicopter. It's great. It's great. Yeah, that is what C.J. Stroud had just watched that episode. Exactly. Like, I've got my leverage, and I want the rights to tamaco. Yo, yeah, C.J. is losing his mind. I'm betting on him. I'm betting on him. I don't know if he's gonna produce. In what capacity? To do what? I think he's gonna play really well this year. Well, it's gotta happen sooner or later, and I think this is the game that starts it. I'm glad we did not tee this up. We don't have a script. You're kind of off script. We don't have a script. I'm very off script. I live my life off script. Yeah, like, it's just another day. But I think this is a statement game. I just didn't want to sound crazy because it's week one. I just worry that he's regressed in every single statistical category every year he's been in the NFL. It has happened. It has happened. That just worries me. Went from 4,100 yards to 37 to 3,000. Went from 23 touchdowns to 20 to 19. You're doing what the rational mind says you should do. I'm not pushing against what you are saying as the rational thought. What I am saying is that he, I think he's gonna beat that. Okay. Okay, no, and I like it. Okay, okay, so C.J. Stroud, but can I ask you, what about anything we have on this team makes you think, is it like, oh, they have fucking Kayshon Boutte now, like of course he's going to have a big year? Well, I mean, they're also—is Tank Dell dead? What's going on with Tank Dell? Is he dead? Like, why is he on the IR again? He's on IR because scared. Well, he's little, and that's understandable. Yeah, like, you really got—he's no Daniel Jones. He's no Mario Hines. Yeah, he's a little guy. It's like, one, it's definitely by proxy of my faith in the coaching staff, 1,000%. That's part of it. I just think that C.J. Stroud bought into something that I think he's—he hit rock bottom. We saw it nationally, and I just, for whatever reason, I think he will respond well to that. See, whereas I think there's a dungeon beneath the rock. Yeah, hey, shout out to cool dungeons. Earlier conversation. Yeah. By the way, what a weird teaser that is. I know. Shout out to cool dungeons. Yeah, we were talking about dungeons. If you want to hear that, subscribe to the Patreon. Exactly, exactly. I don't know, it just worries me because, like, yeah, Nico Collins is an all-world wide receiver. I don't think there's any question about that. Yeah, and he's healthy. He's great. That's wonderful. But then they have Kayshon Boutte and Xavier Hutchinson, and Tank Dell's on the IR, Jaden Higgins on the IR, Jalen Noel's questionable already. They have a guy named Jared Wayne, so as far as we know, I can't prove unequivocally that he's not great. I just, I don't know about this team, man. I don't know about— David Montgomery. Yeah, that was another one of the reasons I was going to say that I'm worried about them. Come on, man. But no, do you, okay, would you want David Montgomery if you didn't have Jahmyr Gibbs? One, that's not a fair question at all. Montgomery is, like, he's fine. He's good. Who's their speed guy? David Montgomery. Stop. Stop. I mean, they got Woody Marks behind him. There we go, and he's flashed. Yeah, flashed. Don't—you know what flashed means. He averaged 3.9 yards per carry, 3.6 yards per carry, and his long run was 23 yards last year. Yeah, he flashed the ability to be out of the NFL in three seasons. He's a very quick, change-of-explosive guy, and that pops out on the screen. We learned, and they learned, which is why they went and got David Montgomery, that he's not a carry guy. So they're doing the opposite of what the Lions did, and hopefully they don't do what the opposite of the Lions did. They also have a gentleman by the name of British Brooks, who— That's a fake name. —has a very cool name. It's almost—there's a, oh God, who? Surveyor. There's a soccer player named Surveyor Peoples, I think. No, no, this is going to sound fake, but I believe this is true. I believe his name is Handsome Surveyor. That's so great. I don't believe it. That's so great. I don't believe that. I guess I don't need to look through all of my old pictures because I sent it to one of my friends. I have this crazy internet thing in front of me. Handsome surveyor. Like a UM or something? No, it's spelled exactly like you think it would be spelled. No way, man. And he wears number nine and plays for Rivers United of the NPFL. Great number, by the way. He is a 20-year-old fella from Nigeria. Handsome surveyor. Surveyor. I think we all have a new favorite. Yeah, I mean, rooting for him in my sleep, I'm telling you. I just, I love the— look, and I know, I know it's like, it's probably a translation from the Nigerian name, but still amazing. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like anybody who's like, What are you gonna name your kid? Well, Mr. Surveyor. What are you gonna name your child? Well, we all know surveyor is ridiculous enough. Let's spice that up and let's go with handsome surveyor. Yeah, let's go with handsome. Let's go with unemployed surveyor. Yeah. I like it. Ah, football's back. The— oh, I just clicked on a button. The next game we have, the Chicago Bears, your favorite football team, in Carolina, my favorite town, to be the Panthers plus three at Lucky Rebel. Yeah, okay, okay. Yeah, Lucky Rebel is kind of just like giving people a lot of— everyone's got credit. Everyone is on the bright side, apparently, because this is another team, the Panthers, that overshot, overkicked their coverage. You can use that in this forum because football. Yeah, I just think— They will lose more than they won last year. Way more. I don't think they're going to look as bad, but some of those games that they won, they just won't win again, and this will be the start as well. Here's what I'm thinking. So, and by the way, to the person who I'm talking to, feel free to cut this out. A while back, I decided I was going to bring in an editor to do some, some editing on podcasts. And because this is, because of when we're recording this, this will be one of the episodes that I send to him this week. I would just like to apologize directly to you right now for having to listen to all of the nonsense through this episode so far. Oh yeah, sorry, sir. And a wonderful job that you're doing. Congratulations. Keep it up. Keep this in if you want. Take it out if you want. Completely up to you. Shout out to mysterious person. Yeah, I just, this is one of those who cares games week one too. Although we're all supposed to be really excited about Caleb Williams. That's another thing where I'm like, okay, I get it. I get it. Like, we need the next quarterback real bad. We need the one that's right under these other guys. Isn't that Drake May? They're trying with him too, but it— I mean, I'll take Drake May over fucking Caleb Williams a hundred times out of a hundred. Would you? Oh, in terms of, like, in terms of who you want it to be or where they're at currently. Yes and yes. Wow. Like, what has, other than having a ton of hype coming out of college, what has Caleb Williams ever done that makes you think he is in some way better than Drake May as a professional quarterback? Caleb threw for sub-60% completion percentage last year. The total yards weren't great. Drake Maye was 4,300 yards, 31 touchdowns last year on 72% completion percentage. Okay, the way you asked that question, I couldn't answer it the way I wanted to answer the question I thought you were going to ask. Sorry about asking you questions based on facts. I know it doesn't happen a lot. Let's go with vibes. Yes, there we go. Now we're back. Now we're back in the saddle. The quarterback you want to be is the style of play that Caleb Williams is and plays with, an inaccurate passer. But you'll get that one throw in the playoffs or get you in the playoff throw, back foot or whatever, while running to the left. Okay, my argument to that would be that he didn't get his team into the playoffs and Drake Maye got his to the Super Bowl. I mean, yeah. So again, with the facts thing. Whole facts thing, yeah. It's just really ridiculous when we're talking about football. Now I'm starting, like, now that I'm—and we don't have time to do this today—but now I'm starting to have the thought in my head where it's like, all right, exactly how high do I think Drake Maye ranks in terms of NFL quarterbacks right now? If you still care, if you still care by next Wednesday, I'm game. Because I think he's a top 10 quarterback in the NFL. Oh my God. Okay, okay. I know who slid the money under the door. Hold on, Drake. I'm going to be done with this in just a second. I know. I'm matching you, I'm matching you, I'm matching you. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, we'll play Call of Duty after this. All right, cool. Yeah, man. No, I legitimately believe that. You know, fuck it, fuck it, fuck it. Who cares about the rest of the games in this schedule? All right. Well, Lions win. I take Josh Allen—we're going to get to it. I'm going to do it quick. Okay. I take Josh Allen, that's one. I definitely don't take Malik Willis. Drake Maye is the quarterback of this team. I don't take Geno Smith. I take Drake Maye over Dak Prescott. I take Drake Maye over Jackson Dart. Ugh, God, this one hurts. No way, what you're about to say. I'm going to call it a wash. With who? Your starting quarterback of the Philadelphia Eagles? Yeah, because I just think Drake Maye's a better quarterback. No, he's not. But I'm gonna call them in the same tier. I'm gonna say either/or. I'll take Drake Maye over Jaden Daniels. If Jaden Daniels' second year would have been like his first year, maybe it's different. I'll take Lamar, okay? So Lamar's two. I'll take Joe Burrow, that's three. I'll take Deshaun Watson, that's four. I'm listening, man. I'm listening. No, we're back to three. Obviously, I'm not taking anybody on the Browns. Drake Maye over Aaron Rodgers, 100 times out of 100 at this point. Drake Maye over Caleb Williams. Drake Maye is not over Jordan Love. Don't play that game. I wasn't who I was on. Okay. I will say I'll take Drake Maye over Kyler, so that'll be that. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll agree with that, for sure. Can you imagine what Drake Maye could do for Kevin O'Connell? Also, okay, Kevin O'Connell aside after I get done with this aside. So we've got—I'm gonna, all right, just for the argument's sake, because I think they're all in similar tiers, including Hurts, Jared Goff, and—brother, what is going on over there? And what's his name on that, Jordan Love. So I'll say I take two of them. I'll say I take two of those three over Drake Maye. I wouldn't, but I'll let you have it. That's incredible. That is incredible work. I'm taking Drake Maye over $70 million C.J. Stroud. Okay, fine at this point, but only at this point. I'm taking Drake Maye—again, if he would have continued to build on his rookie season, then fine, different story. I love Daniel Jones, but I'm gonna take Drake Maye. Sure. I'm taking Drake Maye over Trevor Lawrence. I'm taking Drake Maye over Cam Ward. No, they're not, because Trevor Lawrence has never had the season that Drake Maye just had. Drake—oh my God. And who was he fucking throwing to? Oh my God. Okay, okay. Who did you say after Trevor Lawrence? This is crazy, Chris. I know. We're looking at Trevor Lawrence's stats right now. Right now, Trevor Lawrence has never thrown—he's never thrown for above 4,100 yards. Drake Maye threw for more. He's never thrown for above 29 touchdowns. Drake Maye threw for more. He's never thrown above a 66% completion percentage. Drake Maye threw higher. He had 17, 14, 12 interceptions. I don't think it's close between Drake Maye and Trevor Lawrence. Wow. Okay, okay. Yeah, we just—we need—I'm so glad football is back. This is insanity. That's what we're here for. I'm taking Drake Maye over Cam Ward. I'm taking Drake Maye over Tua Tagovailoa. I'm taking Drake Maye over Bryce Young. I'm taking Drake Maye over Tyler Shough. Yeah. Thank you. I'm so glad you didn't take him over Baker. Yeah. You're about to. You what? I have Baker in the Goff-Love-Hurts category. I think they're similar. Some better than others in that category. No, that's what I'm saying. I think those are in that category. I'll take Baker. I'm going to take another from that group over Drake Maye. These caveats are killing me. So now I'll agree to take three of the four of them, though I probably would not in my real life. So right now we're at potentially six. Six. I'm taking Drake Maye over Bo Nix. I'll take Pat Mahomes over Drake Maye. Thank you, seven. I'm going to take Drake Maye over Fernando Mendoza or Kirk Cousins. Sure. I'll take Justin Herbert over Drake Maye. We're getting there. Though I think in a couple of years that's probably less of a conversation. So that's seven. You have the NFC West, man. It's over. I'm taking Drake Maye— Yeah, you're right. We are about done. I'll take Drake Maye over Jacoby Brissett. Sure. Okay, I'll take Stafford over Maye. He's a Hall of Famer. I will take—I can't. I know, I know. I get this, but you have to. Okay, I'm gonna take— okay, here's what I will do. Yeah. I will put Brock Purdy and Sam Darnold in that group with Baker Mayfield and Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love and Jared Goff, and I will agree to take one more of them over Drake Maye. That just gave you your ten. That's such a bogus— That is ten. That's such a bogus way to do that. But it's not, because I was incorrect. I said I thought Drake Maye was a top ten quarterback. By my logic here, I'm saying he's no better than 11. Yeah, but he's not even close. He's top 15 when you really— I don't know that I do it. I don't know that I agree with that. Why is— what do you expect out of this young man? Okay, let me ask you this question. And yeah, I know that one of them won the Super Bowl and one didn't. What necessarily, other than the fact that he won a Super Bowl, makes Sam Darnold better than Drake Maye? Sam Darnold's done it a couple of times. Even the Minnesota year. When were the other times? The Minnesota year was a crazy year. He just fizzled out. That was a crazy year. Okay, and in that year, in his great season where he played all 17 games, Drake Maye still threw for more yards than him. He outdid Drake Maye in touchdowns, 35 to 31. But first of all, I did not know that I had such strong feelings about Drake Maye. I didn't know either. This is an amazing episode. Now, shout out to—listen, now I'm talking to the editing guy. Only put out the part where we started talking about Drake Maye. This is amazing. I know. I can't believe this, Chris. When did this happen? I kind of wonder if it should just be its own little thing. Chris gushes about Drake Maye on TikTok. Seriously, dog. Like, when did this happen, though? I just think he's—I think this is an incredibly good quarterback. Oh my God. Okay, I'm not going to second-guess myself, but what I will do, because I like you—thank you, buddy—I'm going to see if there's some type of bias that I have against him that I don't think I have, because I don't have an issue. I'm like, am I not seeing the it? Yeah. Am I not seeing it? You're like, I don't know, there's no difference between Drake Maye and Mitch Trubisky to me. Listen, listen. Maybe I'm still looking at Drake from year one, and somebody just called the cops on me. Literally every time I record, there's a fire, and I'm so sorry to whose house is on fire right now. But can you fucking chill? Yeah. Can you not do the whole fire thing right now? For real. Sick. But this is cool. This is cool. Now, you know, you have Drake Maye, and I have, oh my God, Avian Terrell and C.J. Stroud. That's a losing. I need like nine more guys. Drake Maye was fourth in the NFL in passing yards last season. He was third in touchdowns. I just think it was a magical year, Chris. I just— And he was, by the way, very easy first in completion percentage. 72% completion percentage on almost 5,000 attempts. See, a big year. Almost 500 attempts. That's crazy. That's a good one-year sample size. I can't take away from it. And he got sacked 47 times, so, like, he didn't crumble like one of the Carr brothers. Shout out to the Carr brothers, who both probably hate football. They didn't. Wasn't Derek gonna come back? Yeah, he teased that out, which was really weird. And then football was like, Nah, we're good. Yeah, no, no, no, you made the right choice. Like, I think we're all right. Now we Drake Maye's here now. Can you, like—you know what? You know what? This makes me hate the Williams even more, because that's what triggered this. Okay, and, like, just as a joke, I said I was gonna get a Drake Maye autographed jersey, but I can't have a Patriots autographed jersey. That would make me—I would vomit every time I walked into the store. And that's what makes this even more incredible, Chris, is that you had just earlier in this show said you have a really strained relationship with Patriots Nation. I wouldn't call it strained. I would call it just hatred towards—I mean, you know, the Eagles and Patriots had some issues in the Super Bowl. Maybe one of those teams cheated the other one out of a Super Bowl. Who's to say? Who even remembers at this point? I mean, you gimmicked your way into one. No, I'm joking. It was—shout out to the guy. But now literally everybody does it and we suck at it. True. It's—we're like, we're one of the least efficient tush push teams in football. And I love how when everybody starts doing it, they're like, Yeah, you know what? Maybe it's fine. It's a great idea. It's definitely—it's the second guy always gets—Good idea, boss. Yeah, do it again. Do it again. All right, we got to run through these way quicker. The New York Jets are in Tennessee to take on the Tennessee Titans. Titans minus one at Lucky Rebel. Whoa, Jets upset. I think what you mean to say is we're upset the Jets are on television. Correct. Like, why do I have to choose this? Yes. So no, Jets upset is what you're saying? I definitely still think they're better than the Titans. Geno Smith. Are you making the argument for or against? You want to run through where Geno Smith ranks? Imagine if that was my guy, though. Like, we're doing it again. No, but for Geno Smith, we have to judge him against each team's top backup. Yeah. Oh man, he could do top 10 against... Yeah, that's fair. You kind of got to scratch your head a little bit. Yeah, that's fair. You're like, I don't know, maybe he doesn't have the potential of this guy, but I think he's probably better than Gardner Minshew. The— yeah, did we do— no. Cleveland Browns in Jacksonville take on the Jaguars. Jaguars minus eight and a half at Lucky Rebel. That's what I'm talking about, Lucky Rebel. Yes, I think the Jaguars handle business. One of my favorite teams in the league right now. The New Orleans Saints are in Detroit to take on the Detroit Lions. Lions minus seven. Still a little low. No, I'm taking— the Saints kind of gave them the billboard material, so big win for the Lions. No players on the injury report or something like that. First time in forever. Well, you just screwed everything. Oh my God, yeah, why did I do that? You just poor Jameer Gibbs. Oh my God. Like, he honestly could probably sue you for what you just said. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna hold up in court. Andy should reach out to Jameer. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are in Cincinnati to take on the Cincinnati Bengals. Bengals minus four at Lucky Rebel. This is also the Burrow redemption year, so going Bengals here. Did you see how he's trying to walk back the comments that he made a couple of weeks ago? No. He's like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm in it for the long run. In it for the long run here in Cincinnati. As if, like, three minutes ago— and somebody should have just played the clip where he's like, Joe, do you remember when you were like, No, this is make or break year. He's like, yeah, yeah, but when I say long run, I mean I'm gonna be here this whole season. That's just gonna feel long. Yeah, it's gonna feel long. Trust me. If you live in Cincinnati this year, it feels long. Exactly. It's time of year. Yeah, not a good place to be in the winter. The Arizona Cardinals are in Los Angeles to take on the Los Angeles Chargers. Biggest line of the week at Lucky Rabbit, Chargers minus nine. Not gonna lie, another team that I forget I'm excited about, but when they get brought up, I'm excited about is Cardinals. Daniel's offense. Oh, God. I thought you were just like, man, what is Nathaniel Hackett gonna do with Jacoby Brissett this year? What is Nathaniel Hackett gonna do with Jamar Love, though, if we want to— Where is Nathaniel Hackett now? Is he in the arena? There's no arena. Nathaniel Hackett is the— Dude, I was right. No way. He's the offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. What? I thought that was true, and then I phrased it like I was making a joke because it didn't sound right to me. He's also another that fails laterally constantly. Yeah, also— oh, never mind. I won't say that. That's rude. I'm not trying to be rude. Be— therapy is working, everyone. Be curious, not judgmental. A little Walt Whitman for you, or Ted Lasso if you prefer. The— where the hell are we? The Green Bay Packers are in Minnesota to take on the Minnesota Vikings. Vikings minus one and a half at Lucky Rabbit. Ready for the Kyler experiment. The only reason why this isn't for surefire Green Bay win is because they don't have their best defender. But I still think they go into Minnesota and steal one. Okay, my Kevin O'Connell hot take while we're here. KOC gets a lot of credit for being a quarterback whisperer, right? Is it possible that he just happened to have a bunch of really talented quarterbacks who had performed poorly in other places over that one season where he really made his reputation? I think if we put it up on a graph, I think you'd be closer to right than you are wrong. Put it that way. Because, I mean, didn't do much for JJ. JJ is actually worse now than I could have ever imagined he'd be in this league. And you thought he was hot, stinking garbage coming out of Minnesota if anybody wants to pull the tape. Yeah, that's not a joke. Mario, not a big JJ guy. No. And I can't believe he's like, Yeah, we got to put him at third because he's a first-round pick and we can't, like, take him out back. Honestly, I think you just move on. You do something, take the hit, yeah, get him out of there, because he's also going to whine. Oh, well, speaking of whining, Kyler Murray. Can I say, here's my hot take. When we look back at the 2026-2027 Rams season, and I'm not saying this is going to be high praise, we're going to say that the best quarterback on that roster this year was Carson Wentz. You're saying the Vikings? Yeah, isn't that what I said? You said Rams, but— Oh, I don't know where the hell I got that. You love them too. No, I'm joking. I agree. I agree with that. I think we're going to look—we're going to be like, Carson Wentz is the guy. No, no, no, I agree. It's not supposed to happen, but Kyler's—I don't think he's that good. He's not that good, and what he's going to—like, you said it, what he does well, he refuses to do. Right. He's a 5-10 game manager. It's going to be so—this is the year it's going to be so loud because the Vikings aren't miserable, so it's not going to lull anyone to sleep. People will watch. Yeah, we're going to watch it happen. Yeah, there was a lot of, like, anonymous play in Arizona when people were not tuning in. Hell, they were on fucking All or Nothing and people weren't watching it. Yeah, exactly. Like, you could watch him after the games too, and you were like, Nah, not worth it. Yeah, ridiculous. The Miami Dolphins—oh, another mess of an organization—are in Las Vegas to take on the Las Vegas Raiders. Raiders. Minus three at Lucky Rebel. I mean, really, the only reason to watch this game is to see if Fernando Mendoza plays. Like, really, I can't. And even then, you might turn it off really quickly, Raiders, because they're not as bad as the Dolphins. Exactly, exactly. And for that reason, like, I think Kirk Cousins is going to have a pretty good game here. Crazy. I mean, this is a Kirk Cousins-ish game. 188, two touchdowns. All right, let's see. What does Lucky Rebel have Kirk Cousins lines? Didn't think we were getting there. I figured we'd just talk— Oh my God. Of all the games, did you think you would dig deeper into the Raiders-Dolphins? Okay, Kirk Cousins lines at Lucky Rebel: passing touchdowns, one and a half over-under. Malik Willis is half, half a touchdown. Passing, let's see, totals, passing yards, Kirk Cousins, the over-under. Okay, this is a joke. This is a joke, that there is a 26-yard gap in over-under totals between Kirk Cousins and Malik Willis. What? Kirk Cousins 209.5, hammer the over on that. Yes. Malik Willis 183.5, feel free to hammer that under. Absolutely, absolutely. What a great one. What are alt lines? I mean, you gotta make it interesting somehow. Make it, gotta put a little sprinkle of sugar on top of it some way. You can get Cousins 250-plus passing yards plus 205, and I like it because this Dolphins team— is horrible. They have nothing. They literally had to stop practices because the offense was so inept. They have no, like, they couldn't practice with other NFL teams. Yes, they can't practice with themselves. They can't practice with others. Like, this is terrible. Yeah, poor Malik Willis. Like, I thought there was a shot, but this is just the wrong place for him to take that opportunity. He enjoys the money. That's really all you can say. Making a lot of it, so that's great. And if he plays as poorly as he has been in training camp, they're not going to ask him to be on the field much during that money, so that's also pretty cool. Yeah, great spot to be in, really. Absolutely, unless you actually want a future in the NFL. They, uh, where are we at? 13 cover take. Tampa Bay, Cincinnati. The last of the 4:25 games, the Philadelphia Eagles take on the Washington Commanders in Philadelphia. Eagles minus five at Lucky Rebel. Oh, that's a good one. That's a good line. I think the Commanders will look worse than they are in week one, but I'm excited. This Eagles team is another team I'm looking forward to seeing what they end up being early. So, yeah, five feels good. Touchdown, maybe touchdown. This defense versus the offensive line without Laramie Tunsil in Washington might be ugly. Yeah, scrape, scrape. Which makes you wonder about Jaden Daniels long term, how if that's—he is a—oh my God, I never remember this person's name—as he's taking the Ariana Grande approach to bulking up. Yeah, he hates it. Like, I actually would think I should be a little thinner so I can. And he's so talented. I, like, I hope—I want him to be good. Yeah, but it doesn't seem like he's putting himself in the position to do so. The Sunday night game, Dallas Cowboys in New York take on the New York Giants. Feels like we get this every opening weekend. Giants plus three. Wish the Giants had Nabers to really make this, like—it's about the packaging. Is Nabers out? Is he in? Why would he be out? I just thought his recovery was slow, so I took a major leap that he wasn't going to be ready for week one. Let's see. I'm looking at the old DC right now. He is questionable, but questionable at this point of the week, still a lot of opportunity to play. Yeah, and that makes sense. Like, he might be questionable for the first four weeks and play. Yeah, they're playing Malagoa at right guard. That's interesting. Yeah, I mean, you'd think that this is like an early test for whatever this Cowboys front seven is supposed to be, remember this reimagined front seven. I don't know what to think, but I'm actually going to be tuned in. I'm going to go Cowboys here. Like I said, if Neighbors can play at 70, 80%, I think you got a chance at an upset. But what the hell happened to Kayvon Thibodeaux? He was so good. Man, it was trending at one point, right? Yeah, he had 11 and a half sacks that second year, then it dropped to five and a half, then two and a half, and he hasn't been able to stay healthy either. Yeah, and now he's, you know, he's backing up—what the hell's his name? He's backing up Abdul Carter. Yeah, which I thought would have, which I'm hoping actually would, like, give him those high prime-time snaps. But is this like a Pittsburgh Steelers old 3-4 defense? Because I'm looking at Brian Burns, Arvell Reese, and Abdul Carter at linebacker. Like, all of these guys are probably defensive ends. That's so crazy because, yeah, I mean, yeah, it must. It must. That's—I don't see how that flips so fast. Again, I'm not completely tapped in, but it does—it's reminiscent. It's just the reason why I'm not leaning in is because those defenses were good, so I got to be careful with saying yes, it is. I don't know if these guys can do it. Yeah, maybe they had a little bit better than Shelby Harris, DJ Reader, and Chauncey Golston on the line. Though, like, all individually fine players, but there's not a Pittsburgh Steelers superstar on that line. Yeah, so, like, to free up that, what you think is that chaos that's going to be coming from that linebacker position. Yeah, I just want to isolate those guys in the passing game is all I want to do, actually. If you can create the time, you might. And, like, you know, Dion Banks and Greg Newsome at corner? Oh boy. That's disgusting. Oh my. I like Tyler Nubin and Javon Holland is pretty good. Drew Phillips is a nice player as long as he stays healthy. I don't know, man. Like, the whole—in order for Reese and all of those guys to really shine, Newsome and Banks need to hold up. That's gonna be questionable. Yeah, yeah. So for me, Neighbors is my wild card for this one. The Monday night game, and by the way, thank God there's only one of them: the Denver Broncos in Kansas City take on the Kansas City Chiefs. Chiefs minus two and a half at Lucky Rebel. Let's go. Big year for the Chiefs. I'm gonna be saying this week to week, especially if the lines are like this. Money on the Chiefs, man. Big year for the Chiefs. Money on the Chiefs. Big year for the Chiefs. Big year for Drake Maye. Big year for Avion Terrell, and it's last in the National Football League. See, that's—I don't hate it. I have no problem with Avion Terrell playing. I feel like I'm playing a Colbert-esque character here. Exactly. Anyway, that's gonna be it for this week's episode of the Underdog NFL Show. So happy the NFL's back. I hope each and every one of you enjoys the weekend unless you're a fan of the Washington Commanders. We'll see you next time.